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Hi Pamela, I see where you might be confused. It's a Hoka US Men's 8.5 that Hoka feel equates to a UK 8 . According to Hoka a US Women's 8.5 equates to a UK 7. Sizing is very much left to the manufacture and that will explain any differences between two companies. The size chart above is correct according to Hanwag. The footlength meausrement listed is a very good guide to help you.